21 May, 2008

FLDS Eldorado

I had a friend email me wondering about my thoughts on the FLDS kidnappings in Eldorado. Here are some bullet points.






  • Govt kidnaps 460 kids because they have unusual religious beliefs.

  • After 60 days no men have been arrested for abuse.

  • All of the supposed underage mothers are actually of legal consent
    age. They had provided documents proving ages, but CPS didn't believe their documents.

  • Stupid judges say parents can have their kids back after psychiatric
    evaluations, parenting classes, and training.

  • It looks like the phone call was just an excuse to get an overly broad
    warrant. The person who made the phone call was not a member of the
    group, faked the phone call, and has been arrested. However no one
    checked out her story before issuing a warrant.

  • Absolutely no publicly available evidence of abuse, but everyone
    "knows" they abuse them.

  • Children were almost all very healthy prior to the kidnapping.
    Afterwards many are unhealthy.

  • Even state MHMR agencies are saying CPS lied, manipulated, and treated
    the mothers and children abusively.

  • All in all the most clear govt abuse of power in the US in recent
    memory(possibly ever).
  • The judge that issued the warrants and took the children from their parents is a Republican. I thought they were on our side.



There is an article in the Ft Worth Star Telegram that talks about a state senator proposing that the state seize FLDS assets to pay for the costs of "taking care" of the children(housing, legal, CPS costs). Here the state with accusations of abuse, but no legal proof, has kidnapped 460 kids and now wants to steal the parents assets to pay for the costs of keeping them. It is a clear legal violation to keep them without proof of abuse, but very few are complaining about it. It really reminds me of the quote


First they came for the Jews

and I did not speak out

because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the Communists

and I did not speak out

because I was not a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists

and I did not speak out

because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for me

and there was no one left

to speak out for me.


Pastor Martin Niemöller

What is next? Who is next? What if you have more children than normal, can they be taken? What if you homeschool? What if you choose not to have your children immunized with dangerous drugs to prevent minor illnesses? What if you don't let your children date and have sexual relations before marriage?

This could be a test to see how much outcry there is, they started with a group that is somewhat odd and very secretive. But will they stop there? Who do the children belong to? How do we stop them?

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